This article, I don't even want to quote anything from. The level of disgust I feel is beyond explanation.
Two points I'd make from this. If you have a child, you have to be aware what is happening to them at school. If anything is occurring similar to what is described in the article, you have to take extremely forceful steps. I'd likely beat the shit out of the other kids parents and face my day in court. I'd do that happily.
I'd also make sure nothing similar ever happened again.
The sociopathic kids need to suffer. I don't think they can be salvaged. They need to be removed from society and confined for a very long period of time.
I've encountered a lot of these types of individuals. We cannot allow them to affect other people and if that means we release every single person that's ever been convicted of a drug crime and replace them with these sociopaths, I'm pretty comfortable with that.
This problem will escalate.
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And because I'm something of a fan of news article comments.. I liked this one;
Sad, just sad. And you wonder why that dad went ballistic on the school bus. Someone needs to start bullying the bullies. Not with calm words but with a baseball bat.
I agree.. a baseball bat, employed proficiently, will ensure that it doesn't happen again.. at least from that pile of goo.
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You know there was one particular asshole that used to pick on me in high school.. One day I just snapped, picked him up by his his collar and pinned him 2 feet in the air again the lockers. Told him if he came near me again I'd do something considerably more irrational and that was that. Guy never came near me again.
Ran into him a few years ago, he couldn't have been more polite. Some kids just need a good flogging to get them in line.
It's odd that we respond to these situations with threats of physical violence. I think it's part of the way we differentiate ourselves from these people. "Obviously I'm not a sociopath because I want to beat up sociopaths!"
Think of it as self defense, or defense of others who cannot defend themselves.
Pretty much zero sympathy for bullies. If a good ass kicking straightens them out, then great.. but I have a feeling that most turn into adult bullies.
Self defense would imply there was immediate danger. That's like saying the death penalty is self defense against murderers.
A life sentence is self defense against murderers.
Not that it makes any sense in the context of bullying.
Life sentence isn't self defense at least not in a legal sense. In colloquial use maybe.
I guess I just take issue with the idea that bullies need to be bullied. It's like advocating rape for rapists. Or murder for murderers. You can use anecdotal evidence to say it works for you but who's to say that bully didn't go pick on someone else?
Oh.. I understand better now what you're getting at.
Let's see if I can explain this in a way that makes sense.
Somebody once said that "intolerance of intolerance is self defense, not intolerance". They said it in the context of gay rights. When we are aggressive in confronting bigots, religious people like to infer that we're being "intolerant" of their religious views. We're not. We're just defending ourselves.
It's the same deal with bullys. The bully is the one that is initiating the confrontation. Therefore, when you kick the crap out of a bully, you're not bullying the bully. It's a form of self defense.
Of course there's some common sense that has to happen to because there are degrees of bullying. It's obvious I'm annoyed with online assholes who seem only to enjoy themselves when they are ruining other people's fun. I don't think pounding them with a baseball bat is the way to deal with that, but I do think they need much more than a talking to by mom and dad.
There is some bullying that causes people to jump off a bridge. I wouldn't have much sympathy for them if they did get a royal ass kicking, and close monitoring to make sure they understand what they are doing. If they clearly lack any empathy, are sociopaths, then they need impatient treatment for as long as it takes to straighten that out.. of course, once their medical problems have healed from the ass kicking.
And personally, I have a very high tolerance for jackasses.. believe it or not. I haven't been in a fight since I was 20. However, if I saw somebody abusing animals, abusing kids, I would beat their ass. If I saw somebody bullying someone in a very degrading way, I'd do all I could do to provoke a physical confrontation, and then beat their ass.
I think you're drawing false equivalencies when you frame it as raping the rapists. No.. you catch a rapist in the act, you beat him senseless. It's the police department that is required to abide by rules of conduct where they would simply put the rapist in cuffs.
Believe me.. I get it.. vigilante justice is not cool, but sometimes there is justification for physical violence. We can debate whether or not we need to keep our cool when something horrible is transpiring, but I can't imagine comparing it to "raping the rapist".
I hope that makes a bit more sense, and I was probably writing from an emotional point of view after reading the linked article. But, it's exactly those emotions that are amplified when real events are happening. And if you're the victim of bullying, it's even more reason to go Kor's route. It might just change the bully's way of thinking, and it'll certainly help ease the feeling of degradation that results from bullying.
And ya.. like Kor said, some kids just need a good flogging... not for failing a math exam, or not taking out the trash.. but for a complete lack of empathy.
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