Doug wrote a rambling screed about the cop killer, afraid that Obama would "take his guns". I referenced the story a couple days ago.
I like looking at Doug's posts in a broader context, because he's simply a parrot of the larger Loon Brigade movement. You can get a gauge of where they are at by looking at Doug.
He is in the process of losing his mind.. and it's interesting to see the changes over time. The question then becomes, how far do they really go as they finally realize it's all over for their movement?
How can one predict? We assume they are self absorbed narcissists with a persecution complex. How does that personality type integrate their own marginalization in the broader world around them? I think it goes into increased cultish isolation with "like minded" compatriots.. but eventually charismatic figures seize control of those groups. It will either fizzle, or it will end in a blood bath.
Anyway.. the comment I left..
Really.. what difference does it make where Kos lives? That's not relevant. But this is great.. did you actually just ask Liberals to prove you wrong? Let's look at the tape;
If you don't like such a generalization, Liberals, then prove me wrong
Why would you even bother writing such a thing Doug? I do it over and over and you just delete it off. What on Earth possesses you to solicit any sort of rebuttal when all you know how to do, all you are capable of, is deleting it off?
That is the most absurd thing you've ever written, and you've written a lot of absurd things. The fact is, if anyone dares "prove you wrong", you delete it. Period.
The point that people are making, and that Sullivan quote says it very clearly, is not that conservatives like Beck are ordering crazy people to kill cops. It's that people like Beck, and yourself.. create the constant stream of hostility and vitriol that leads people to seriously consider those types of violent actions..
You have completely gone off the deep end with your rhetoric, exactly as Beck has. Sullivan explains that quite clearly as it's obvious you see you've lost the political war and you have nothing left to lose, so why not drop the rhetorical nuclear bombs?
There is no baseless accusation you can make of Obama that is too extreme. There is no paranoid conspiracy theory that is too wildly crazy. There is no call to arms.. quite literally calling people to get arms and prepare for a "revolution" that you can make that is too extreme. Yet, it is everyone else who totally misunderstands your point? Really?
You keep blaming lefties, over and over, and this is a very long running theme with you, that we just don't understand what you're saying. You constantly whine about being taken out of context, or your meaning skewed.. but you simply will never realize that you're an awful writer and you cannot get a clear point across. This is why I always ask you to explain yourself in detail.
And you always refuse.. always.. because you do not have the talent to do it. You want to speak in broad generalities and then whine when we accuse of you of claiming "all poor people are lazy".
The perceived "misunderstanding" is not OUR FAULT.. it's your fault for not articulating your point of view.. because you are a bad writer.. but there's no person on the planet that could possibly get it through your thick head that YOU are the problem. It's the words you write down that are outrageously vague, lack any sort of actual policy views, and lead to any interpretation that a person wants to make.
Out of courtesy, I always quote you.. what you've actually written. It's not MY fault you can't actually write anything that says anything.
This post is a great example. How could somebody possibly get through the entire thing? It's awful.. just dreadfully awful in writing mechanics, style, and content. You have absolutely no idea how to compose a clear and concise essay, and you are absolutely convinced (it's like a religious thing to you) that the problem is with everyone else. You are absolutely convinced everyone else is "stupid", or "morons", or whatever sort of trite descriptor you use.. and it's never you.
Your ego is astounding.. it's as massive as your writing is awful.
But ya Doug.. we get your point this time. That psycho personally chose to shoot those cops. It was his "choice". You could have literally told him to do it and you STILL wouldn't have any responsibility for it at all. You can't possibly understand how people like you contributed to his insanity. It's unfathomable.
The war is over buddy. You lost. Your movement has become fringe, if it wasn't before. I really don't care what sort of incendiary language you want to copy from Glen Beck, or Michelle Malkin... but you damn sure better get used to people thinking you contribute to the violence and deaths.
The conclusion to your post is the best.
That, my friends, is the lowest you have sunk to yet.
Ya.. woe is you Doug.. poor poor Doug.. always misunderstood.. always mischaracterized.. always the abused and disadvantaged one.. the one that gets kicked out by unreasonable people.. the one who must carry the burden of the abused.
Ya.. Doug.. you mention not a single thing about 3 dead cops, and the families they leave behind.. You mention nothing about that AK47 rounds that tore through their heads. You mention nothing of lives torn apart. It's all about you.
Oh.. poor.. you..
You're a real piece of work...
Now go ahead and delete this.. and go cry some more..
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Gorak I love this blog. Well said Tom.
Ill give this post a +2^(Zimbabwe's Inflation)
Whoa... i actually went and read half of his post. I stopped at..
"The right to bear arms is more than just providing us weapons for hunting, or protecting our personal property. The 2nd Amendment was indeed created so that the people may be armed in case America was invaded, so that a militia could be called up to defend the nation against foreign enemies. However, this same militia of Americans needed to be armed, also, in case a domestic enemy rose up. The Founding Fathers feared a tyrannical centralized government, and expected that someday We The People may need to rise up against a tyrannical government that is no longer for the people, and by the people. Some Americans believe that Obama's Administration is such an entity."
He writes this after blaming liberals for taking conservatives out of context.... its ironic that he states the 2nd amendment and then takes it out of context.
Simply stunning...
"Some Americans" are more than welcome to take up their arms against Federal Government of the United States..
I figure 1 tank should address the issue easily.
Slightly more seriously.. can you imagine.. how fucking insane a person would have to be to think Obama represents a "tyrannical government"?
Again, it's a symptom of a very real melt-down we're witnessing.. and it's pretty cool imo.
oh and thx
it's pretty scary really. when you view american conservatives more objectively: where else have we seen increasingly marginalised groups with opinions increasingly divergent from what is 'mainstream'?
oh thats right, i know why that's familiar - because that's pretty much the underlying premise for every war since industrialisation.
in a way dougs prophecy might come true: there may well be an insurgent war in the streets of the US, but the insurgents may well be the tattered extremist remnants of the conservative movement rather than the frequently touted 'muzlimz'.
be careful about your '1 tank' theory though. as far as i know your organisations like the national guard are where the loons can (and do) go to get access to their own tanks.
Thing is, Nolm, is that I think the movement is really really fringe... and made up mostly of cowards who refused to enlist in the military and go to Iraq.
Certainly he is right that when governments become incompatible with the will of the people, it's the responsibility of the people to change it. If I understand correctly.. we still have elections.
I might take them slightly more seriously if Obama does away with elections.. but really.. they're just a joke.. a sad sad joke..
i guess my point was that insurgency movements only need to be fringe and still be effective. the days of armies lining up to each other at 100 paces, and even trench warfare, are over. you only need a few well armed conservative loons to inflict what boils down to domestic terrorism.
the guy who killed 3 local cops for fear of his freedom to bear arms being infringed on is in many ways no different to an iraqi who builds an IED.
i acknowledge your point about the majority of these whack jobs not enlisting now there's a war on. but pre 9/11 it was a great way to blow a bunch of shit up on the tax payers dime and i imagine a lot of that sort of pant-peeing weekend warrior got caught out and did one or more tours of duty.
What i found fucked up was Doug's interpretation of the 2nd amendment. He had it all correct up to the tyrannical government. Presidents are limited to 2 terms for that specific purpose. 2nd amendment says jack shit about rising up and overthrowing the government.
On top of that he starts out by defending conservatives, saying they are not to blame(the Pittsburgh shooting). Okay fine I can accept that argument to a degree, but then he takes a 180 and spits out a crystal clear example of what he just attempted to refute.
I get the point Nolm. It's just the sense that I get is that there's just a lot of frustrated rhetoric from the Loon Brigade right now.
I try to place myself in their place and consider how I would feel if the politics I am invested in were disintegrating before my eyes, but I would likely try and geographically solve the problem rather than advocate violence.. but that's just me.
Eventually they will become increasingly marginalized until they are ignored, even by people like me. That's the end of that brand of religious fundamentalist conservatism in the US.
The trick is to destroy it in the Muslim world as well. That's going to take a really long time, and if there's going to be mass violence, that's where it will come from.
US Christans are cowards. The same cannot be said of Middle Eastern Muslims.
I'm not sure if there is a geographical solution to your christian conservatives. lol
If as a liberal, you were in their present shoes you could just leg it to Europe or any one of the other billion places that the loon way of thinking is nearly - if not completely - eradicated.
If however you are a loon... the US is like your last refuge.
I can see why they are getting crazier by the day.
I'm not sure if there is a geographical solution to your christian conservatives.
Utah...
For the record, what Doug approved was not what i said. He left out the entire quote and my preamble.
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