Monday, August 27, 2007

Losing Their Minds

Doug has often claimed that I've been "disruptive" on his blog comments. As an experiment, I've made some comments contradicting a few of his unsubstantiated assertions, here. I've written about this a couple times and linked to it recently. I'm doing this again because I wanted to highlight points I've raised before about shear lunacy of the loon brigade.

Particularly, this Paul Couturier person goes completely apeshit when I dare to rebut Doug's arguments. He keeps insisting that the information I reference is my "interpretation" despite the fact that I quote directly from the sources, as well as link to them.

Because they at least know and have talked to people like myself who've actually BEEN to Iraq; people like me who will tell them of all the GOOD things that are happening there!
I removed a dozen exclamation points from his comment as they were a little redundant.. but he raises an interesting issue.

Is an individual soldier who served in Iraq more informed about the conditions in Iraq than, say, those in the intelligence services of our nation whose job is to collect and analyze a broad range of information?

This is not to slight any soldiers service, but the conditions in a particular region one soldier is deployed versus another can be vastly different. I referenced the statistics on the "surge" a few posts below, but Mr. Couturier would simply dismiss it out of hand because his individual observations may have been different. Or, more likely, he considers any adverse news to be an insult to the military and therefore it is "liberal media bias" by definition.

He argues against points nobody has raised. No one has claimed there aren't "GOOD things" being done in Iraq. However, he has no grasp or nuance or totality of information. Painting the walls of a school does little to balance the discovery of dozens and dozens of executed civilians.

He then asks;

Then WHY are you trashing my brothers and sisters currently over there, and their mission?
I removed about a dozen question marks as redundant.

That's absurd on it's face, but indicative of very strange point of view. To quote myself from a couple days ago; whenever factual, but negative, reporting is cited about Iraq, the loon brigade will knee-jerk it into an "anti-military" spin.

That was a classic example - he did exactly that.

He chooses not to address a substantive argument, but rather simply calls me "anti-military". It's the internet equivalent of scribbling with a crayon, and quite sad that he can't even have a rational discussion without losing his mind and descending into tired slogans and simple accusations of anti-military bias.

I particularly enjoyed his "YOU LOSE" argument. It reminded me of the video I posted last week defending the bible by use of circular logic. Checkmate!!!! If you close your eyes, you can see him pounding on his keyboard with spittle flying out of his mouth to coat his monitor.

The point is, the loon brigade would insist that any time our military is engaged in combat, it is unpatriotic and "anti-military" to question the civilian leadership. Clearly factual information cannot be acknowledged. We are not allowed to question the motives or wisdom of the deployment because to do so instantly becomes a traitorous act. Only through blind acquiescence can we "win".

That seems far more reminiscent of fascism to me.

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