Fucking interesting, but apparently you don't believe evil exists in the world - or wait, maybe you do - in your eyes America is the evil, right shithead? And I know Doug, and he doesn't pound nails for a living, he operates heavy equipment. I'd explain it, but it would be too complicated for your simple little fucking mind. - SkydiverickOh shit.. he must have an advanced degree in mechanics then. My bad.
Lets correct the record here.
Liberals do not have their "heads in the sand". We realize there is "evil" in the world, but we don't classify it as a simple "them vs. us" modality as the right wing does. We don't believe the current right wing war mongering is the solution to the problem.. which, you know, is rather obvious considering the state of the world today. You idiots had your chance and fucked it up.. now it's time for leaders with more nuance then "you're either with us or against us" type thinking.
Wasn't it Einstein that said "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result"?
Now - as to this constant strawman argument that these idiots pitch a fit with; "in your eyes America is the evil". By that argument, Rick tries to draw the parallel that opposition to right wing ideology, opposition to George Bush, is the same as opposition to "America". Case in point, torture. If we think that torturing prisoners is evil, we must think America is evil, right?
Let me make this really clear for this moron so that maybe he'll stop mischaracterizing liberalism with his simplistic propaganda. America is NOT evil. What assholes like you have done with it is. Your time will soon be over, and your ideology will be relegated to the dustbin of history. Your lord and savior in George Bush will leave office humiliated, the worst president in the history of the United States. American honor will be restored.
So, Rick, now that I told you that I think there is "evil" in the world, but simply disagree on how you resolve the situation, would it be possible for you to stop lying about the liberal point of view on that issue? Somehow I doubt it.
Bonus asshat quote;
So you think this complicated universe of ours happened by chance? You must be more stupid than Rick claims. - Steve LawYou have absolutely no evidence that it didn't happen by chance. That's not even the point, you stupid fuck. My point was to ridicule the "creationist museum". They put a fucking saddle on a dinosaur! Jesus fucking christ, reading is fundamental.
As an aside, I find it hysterical that the actor that played "Adam" in the creationist video the museum uses turns out to have been a porn star. I laughed and laughed. It's great.
Every bit of science documents evolution. It is factual insanity for idiots like you and Doug Gibbs to think that mankind dates back 6000 years. There is a wealth of physical evidence that our species dates back at least 100,000 years. That is, mankind in it's current biology dating back at least 100,000 years. Earlier ancestors date back millions of years.
I've written this many times, that I consider myself a Diest. The basic idea is that "god" created the universe and there is no evidence that "god" has had any involvement in it since then. Furthermore, "god" doesn't even have to be a conscious being. It could be whatever fluke initiated the big bang. That's all there is to it.
I'd also agree that atheism and agnosticism are quite reasonable and the arguments in favor of those views are persuasive. What isn't persuasive is the bat-shit crazy idea that the universe is 6000 years old, or the totally unsupported idea that "god" is some human-like consciousness that guides affairs on earth. I don't think the visage of the virgin Mary growing as mold on somebody's refrigerator is evidence of the validity of Jesus.
I like this idea, though, of Rick bagging on my "simple mind". Everything he writes is simply a regurgitation of right wing slogans he's heard from the likes of Sean Hannity. There is no nuance or substance to his arguments. How about an illustration of Rick's arguments.
Thanks to the loons for the comments though. The more you idiots write, the more you make my point.
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I thank God that when the moment of 9/11 ocurred someone like Clinton was not president. When the WTC bombing ocurred in 1993 he treated it as a mere criminal act. The attacks then, and in 2001, violated all principles of civilized behavior, and demanded an unqualified response. The attacks were acts of war, and for you to treat them as less, or to believe that you can reason with unreasonable people like those that inhabit radical Islam, is simply foolish.
As for the 6,000 years topic, scientific dating methods have been proven fallible time and time again. Once such test applied to the Carbon Dating Method, for example, tested a live mussel and the Carbon Dating Method proclaimed it had been dead for 10,000 years.
The Origin of the Universe, and that of mankind, is no more proven through the scientific method than it has been by faith. However, individuals like yourself that proclaim that the theories put forth by the imaginative minds of science is fact, while the statements of faith from the world's oldest book is nothing more than fantasy, are missing the point. Your beliefs are yours to believe, but doesn't it seem just as foolish to worship the unproven faith of evolution and the big bang as it would be in your eyes to believe the words of the Holy Bible? In fact, to believe as you do, to me, is just as nutty to me as you finding it nutty to believe that Noah literally gathered all of the animals for the ark (Dinosaurs were present on the ark, according to some scholars, by the way, and were possibly on the ship as infants - the book of Job has a detailed description of a brachiosaur and plesiosaur).
And your continual personal attacks against people such as Doug and Rick are not very becoming, and seriously makes you look simple-minded. You continually say things about Rick and Doug without knowing all of the facts. You have never sat on a trenching machine while going over foundation plans and a precise grading plan, converting decimals to inches, adding and multiplying to come up with the proper depths and slopes, all the while simultaneously operating a multi-levered, and quite complicated machine like Doug does (its a non-stop multi-tasked operation because the company gets paid by the foot, not by the hour), so I would not jump to conclusions. He has worn many hats, as well, and only reverted to construction out of necessity, as I understand it. He owns a lot of property somewhere, but I don't recall the details, to be honest. I know what I know because he has been a student of mine, and one of my brightest. Rick is a rich kid with too much time on his hands, and pretty much blogs because his friend, Doug, influenced him - but Rick does it while he's in between adventures. Now, I haven't given you all the facts, and perhaps I shouldn't have relayed what I have, but perhaps you may be a little wiser because of it, and not so quick to come to quick, non-factual conclusions about Rick and Doug as you are so quick to accuse them of. Good Day.
steve, you should do a bit more research before delving into a scientific discussion about the origin of the universe. every time i hear some young earth nut pull out the carbon dating card i just want to pull my hair out... astrophysics have done wonders to provide corroborating evidence to the age of the earth and validity of a number of dating methods. get over it.
the earth is not 6,000 years old. God will not love you less after admitting that, i assure you.
the bible is not the world's oldest book. the torah was written by moses, who lived long long long after the dawn of humanity, and job [arguably the oldest book of the bible] was still written significantly later than the advent of written communication. saying things like the bible is the oldest book in the world certainly does not aid your credibility when arguing with someone like tom.
belief in an old universe/earth does not at all violate biblical claims. dinosaurs weren't on the ark because they were all DEAD. pretty easy solution if you ask me.
my honest exhortation: read your bible, do some research, then you can talk about how old the earth is on blogs without getting shot down by a deist that seems to know more about what you're talking about than you do.
as i side note, i am strangely surprised on how many things the two of us agree on, tom.
Come on Bud.. it's much better if the loons don't do any research. If they started making rational arguments it wouldn't be near as much fun to post their comments on the blog and make fun of them.
Okay.. so I take it "Bud" is somebody I know... You should clue me in.
you would probably remember me from world of warcraft.
my wife is in your old guild and i don't think the two of you got along very well. haha.
Lol, I know who Bud is. Although, his sig seems wrong...OCD OMG!
I don't get it. I asked who you are and you respond with something cryptic? Is there some great mystery, or just playing some kind of stupid game? I really don't give a shit if TDA people read my blog.
I think I know who the "wife" is. She's got a serious persecution complex. I treated her exactly the same as I would anybody else who screwed up in a raid, and she thought it was something personal?
Totally wrong Tom. Bud=/=Toad.
I don't know if Bud wants to be known, so I won't say anything. I can't imagine why seeing as how you don't play anymore.
forgive my absurdly literal response to 'clue' you in. get it? it was kind of a joke.
not hiding my identity, but i prefer to leave out the possibility of pre-judgment. i'd rather we talk about whatever it is we're talking about on the blog rather than what someone may think of me inside of [as you say]] a stupid game. make sense? it's the same reason i don't post with my actual blog. *shrug*
anyway, my character's name is olucidir. i'm not sure i know who dan is, and it doesn't really matter. yeah i'm the o.c.d. guy but fortunately i haven't made a habit of typing the thing that dan is no doubt referring to on this blog. so if you're one of the oh-so-hilarious jokers from the daggerspine boards that insists i don't actually have o.c.d. well, you can think whatever you want i suppose. ;-P it doesn't really matter.
anyway, this is a fun blog to read and comment on so i think i'll stick around.
No, actually this is Telchar. I just recall your rants with Bonehead.
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