Ultimate Fighting Jesus

Driscoll put this bluntly in his sermon "Death by Love" at the 2006 Resurgence theology conference (available at TheResurgence.com). According to Driscoll, "real men" avoid the church because it projects a "Richard Simmons, hippie, queer Christ" that "is no one to live for [and] is no one to die for." Driscoll explains, "Jesus was not a long-haired … effeminate-looking dude"; rather, he had "callused hands and big biceps." This is the sort of Christ men are drawn to—what Driscoll calls "Ultimate Fighting Jesus."

If he's so eager to die for the Action Jesus, with Kung Fu Grip.. would be nice if he just got on with it.

This sort of thing is why I say that most Christians are not really Christians. They're just really violent freak type, hyper-masculine, uneducated bozos.

.. which brings me to PZ Myers. Myers is one of those "liberal elite" that dominate University life, and brain wash the nice Christian kids.

By the way.. when somebody says that "evolutionary theory" is just a "theory".. you can remind them that gravity is just a "theory" as well, and ask them to demonstrate their "faith" by leaping off a tall building..

As I've said many times.. I consider myself a "Deist". The short of it is, I think that every reaction has to have a cause and whatever the cause was that spun existence into being is my "god". I call it Gorak.

This god may or may not be self-aware. Nobody can know. And that's it.

Normally, I make a distinction between spirituality and organized religion. I find the former mostly benign and the latter the greatest evil ever visited on the human race. Myers, on the other hand, finds any form of spirituality not only inane, but dangerous. I can see his point.

"Faith" requires a person to believe something is absolutely true just because they are told it is, completely devoid of any compelling evidence. That sets a dangerous precedent where we, as humans, actually value a person's willingness to believe in made up shit. Not only do they believe it, they make it a central theme of their life and feel a compulsion to tell other people about the made up thing that they believe. We're supposed to think "wow, that's awesome.. you totally believe that's true and live your life by it and think everyone else should as well.. totally awesome!!". Uh.. no.

That is how people end up believing Iraq had WMD's and Saddam had something to do with 9/11. That method of thinking leads to death and destruction. That's an extremely persuasive point that Myers makes. I think the skepticism is a better value than faith. Demonstrable truth is better than rhetoric and fiction.

When somebody makes an argument about something, and after thinking about it their view makes more sense than mine, I'll adopt their view.. and I'm going to adopt Myers point of view on that one. He's simply right.

So.. where does that leave me with Gorak? I don't think there is a contradiction - because I don't ascribe any nature to Gorak. I just think every action has a cause, and that is just one of those universal truths.

I don't want to get into the chicken/egg debate because that just makes my head hurt. It's like pressing two mirrors close together and expecting to see only one image. If Gorak is a cause, what caused Gorak, right? Gorak can be the infinite cause, and apparently there is no first cause.

The point is, I don't have to have a definition because there can be no rational definition for something that completely lacks in compelling evidence.. so I don't think my personal view of "god" validates believing in made up bullshit.

Jennifer asks in a comment;

I have a question for you. What has my religion done to hurt anyone? I am not talking Islam, or the religious extremists, but simply me and my beliefs. Have I ever called you "sick" because your gay. Have I ever said that you are a horrible person, or that you don't deserve equal rights. I can truly see your hatred for some of the evangelists or extremists but what about the average Christian?

Asked and answered.. as the lawyers would say..

I did answer the question, here... in that "morals" post, but I'll expound on the theme by demonstration how morally abosolutist views dehumanize people.

Jennifer honestly seems completely confounded how anyone could draw a parallel between her religion and the rain of blood that religion has caused through history.

A quick aside.. I've been watching The Tudors on Showtime.. and it's great. It's a drama based on the life of Henry VIII. It's estimated that Henry had 75,000 people executed during the Reformation. Henry was not a Secular Humanist.

Getting back to Jennifer - what Jennifer calls "extremists" is simply what religion is. Her brand of so-called "peaceful" religion is the anomaly, not the blood soaked variety of most religious adherents. Ultimately, the way of thinking is the same - and so the pain that is caused is the same.

People like Jennifer are absolutely convinced that Islam is different than Christianity.. it's different than the Crusaders.. or the Inquisition.. or any number of religious atrocities. Heck, Jennifer even further sets herself apart from Christians like Doug because she won't call me "sick".

.. but she still doesn't think I'm fully human because she doesn't think I should get married.. and STILL thinks that somehow she is different than all the rest.

no no.. it's all the same.

Your way of thinking enables the atrocities. It legitimizes them... and I can't fathom how anyone could possibly call themselves a Christian after the centuries of horrors that it has caused. Short memories perhaps?

What about the average Christian? Well, it's the same as the average Muslim, or the average Hindu.. they are morally absolutist, and are actively harming society. It's harming me, and people I care about.

So. the "gay marriage" issue then..

Doug is lying when he claims that being gay is a "choice". It's just like being left-handed, or having green eyes. Therefore, whatever justification you use to exclude gay people from any of societies institutions is exactly the same as if you said a left-handed person is excluded. Imagine.. everyone with green eyes is not allowed to get married? Nice..

There's a chance that one of Jennifer's children may be gay. There's a chance that Doug's daughter might be a lesbian. I take great solace in these possibilities because I love the emotional turmoil it causes them. The greater the pain, the better.. because their way of thinking has caused even greater pain on the rest of us.

Different freaks handle it differently. Dick Cheney simply keeps his mouth shut. In 2000, his daughter Mary and her partner were not allowed on the stage at the Republican Convention. His other daughter, the straight one, was.. with her husband and children. Why not Mary? Christianity. It's Jennifer's way of thinking. It's just another form of torture - this one mental... and Christians know all about torture. That's their specialty.

The weird thing is that Mary Cheney continued to work for these people. That's what I refer to as the gay "Jews for Hitler". I don't get it. They demean Mary Cheney, and she's quite willing to be nice and take it... and even work to support them.

I'm not.

What kind of morally bankrupt individual, like Dick Cheney, can exclude his own daughter from the activities of his life that he includes another daughter? The immorality is stunning...

Doug is all proud that he's going to have Alan Keyes on his "show". Alan Keyes' daughter, Maya, turned out to be a lesbian - much to the chagrin of her father. Again, Doug thinks she just "chose" to be a lesbian, just like Mary Cheney. (have I said that Doug is one of the dumbest people on the face of the planet lately?). Anyway.. Alan Keyes, the "Christian".. threw his daughter out of his family, stopped talking to her, stopped paying her college tuition.. and left her stranded. He is, after all, a very devout Christian. I know Jesus would have played it exactly the same way.

Imagine the psychic horror of having your own father do that to you, simply for being as you are. This is the same psychic horror (albeit a bit toned down) that every gay person feels when people like Jennifer tell us that we cannot participate in the greatest institutions of love that mankind has.

Many young gay people take their own lives every year, rather than live with the shame and humiliation and degradation.. from people like Doug.. and people like Jennifer. It's all a result of religion.. and Jennifer wonders "what about average Christians?" A small amount of the dead's blood is on your hands. A small part of the degradation of our own humanity, that every single gay person feels, is on your hands.

And Doug thinks people "choose" to put themselves through that.. stupid fuck.

This is why "average Christians" are dangerous. They have absolutely no idea what they are doing. You don't think for yourself when you decided if gay people should be able to marry. You let Christianity answer that question for you.. and you're completely oblivious to the moral implications of that.

And that's why PZ Myers is correct. The valuing of "belief", as opposed to rational thought will always lead to destruction.. be it wars.. or the casting out of a young daughter, scaring her for life.

And this is why I will not lift a finger to help you.. because I know what it's like to be hated.. to be scorned.. to having the barrel of a .357 magnum in my mouth when I was 17 years old.. because people like you think there's some reason why I'm not like other people.. why I'm not human..

And to top it off.. you wonder why I get "angry". Do you have any idea how many of my friends died from AIDS, and because of people like you, their partners couldn't even be by their side when they died? People like you think they brought it on themselves and people like you think they somehow deserved it?

You probably love your husband.. and it has never occurred to you what it would be like if the citizens of your own country told you that you couldn't marry him.. because you have curly hair.. or whatever stupid fucking reason they come up with. And you're supposed to be nice to them when they say it?

No.. you work to destroy the reasons why they say it.. because you know in your heart that it is evil worse than death.. it's dehumanizing.

The nice thing about the United States is that despite people like you, I can make my own way. I can be with who I want despite you.. and I can finally come to realize that I'm perfectly normal (although far more intelligent than you).. and while you can use your majority of hatred to keep us from having hospital visitation rights.. or inheritance rights.. or any of the other 1000+ benefits of federal law that you take for granted.. I can be better than you despite that, and because of that. I can be more understanding.. more compassionate.. more generous.. more moral.. more human.. but ONLY for those who include me, and the people I care about, fully in the human race. The rest of you can fuck off.

Why the fuck should I even bother trying to "persuade" these people of anything? They don't deserve it after what they've done. Other people disagree with me on that one.. and if they want to try and change somebody's mine.. fine.. but not me. I wouldn't try to change their mind any more than I would try and change the mind of a Klansman.. Fuck 'em.

I know there is nothing wrong with me, despite you. Some gay people never come to that realization, and carry shame and humiliation with them their entire lives. They'll beg and plead to be recognized and treated fairly. Not me. I take what I want regardless what you think of it.

Just like a good Christian.. you have absolutely no idea what you have done. That's why I'm so excited to see your political movement being destroyed.. and your religious movement swept into the dustbin of history.

And if all else fails.. we'll just buy some nice property somewhere in Europe and have a grand time.