The Problem With Creationism

.. is that they're just really stupid individuals, incapable of understanding the concepts of biology that real biologists are trying to explain to them.

It's either that, or they are so invested in their idea that "god did it" that they simply refuse to actually consider the evidence.

And so you get a situation such as this, from Doug's creationist idol, Ray Comfort.. NOT PhD

Professor, I know you believe, but please, give us who are healthy skeptics some empirical evidence. Remember, stupid people like me want good hard evidence before we, like you, become believers in Darwin's theory," Comfort said.

You can read the response at that link, from an actual Professor of biology, WITH a PhD. It contains lots of technical terms and concepts that requires a certain amount of intellect to understand. It's what we call "science".. and this "science" was researched using the "scientific method".

There is no "belief" in that science. There is evidence, and scientific theory which is exposed to scrutiny and criticism. However, "god did it" is not evidence.

I'd really love to debate it with Doug on his "program" some time.. I'm not a biologist, my education and profession is in engineering. In fact, I never took a college level biology class as it was not in my program of study. I do understand the techniques of science that biologists use in their field, as it's the same as any profession, including mine.

I can study the materials and grasp the concepts, including accumulating enough data points, to crush any argument Doug could ever hope to muster up.

/update

Doug wrote a response, criticizing me for pointing out that the "experts" interviewed in Strobel's book were nothing of the sort. Of course, Doug doesn't mention anything about his own post being wholly dedicated to their credentials, and not the actual "evidence", such as it is, that they offer.

I left this message as rebuttal.. again.. just as a record for myself, because it's hard to tell what Doug will delete...

Somehow he thinks he's still making a more persuasive argument. That's how he's able to be a religious freak in the first place;

But you wrote a post about their credentials, and that's exactly what I addressed. How can you accuse me of neglecting the substance of their views when your post was entirely about their credentials? I simply pointed out where you were wrong.

Did I make any factual errors in my comment Doug? I posted this also on my blog, and if I made any errors, I need to correct them ASAP so will appreciate your help in doing that if I did make those errors.

What "message" am I missing? I'm very interested in actually examining the evidence, but your side seems to have nothing more than "god did it" to offer.

I'm very serious about this.. and I've written posts on my blog about the evidence, completely ignoring the personalities involved. What am I missing? State it categorically and I'll address it.

Do you not see that calling science "mythical bullshit", whilst simultaneously embracing the notion that a magically supernatural being created humanity in it's current form some 6000 years ago is rather absurd Doug?

That really is an honest question I put to you. On the one side, you have a bunch (hundreds if not thousands) of credentialed biologists and scientists presenting papers and PhD essays on the science behind evolution. Not all of these papers support every theory of Darwin, but refining and revising the theories to better fit the evidence they've studied in the fossil records and associated bio-chemistry.

On the other side.. you have an old text that was written as a moral and historical narrative by a bunch of religious people thousands of years ago.

Which side is "mystical" Doug? Do you really think that the literal interpretation of the bible is the undisputed factual view of a body of science, rather than the study by those who were trained and devoted their entire lives to it's study?

Once again, I renew my offer to read Strobel's book, and I'll even write my own criticism of it on my blog so that you know I have done so. In return, you read Dawkins' book, which documents the actual scientific evidence behind evolution, rather than assuming that every hole in the scientific record is filled by god's hand.

What say you?

What gets me is that some of you fuckers seem to be more interested in the puzzles I post, rather than the actual serious debates of policy and politics.

Are we all becoming numb to it? Or rather.. I'm I being over-narcissistic to think that anyone gives a shit about this, and my view on it?

It's never been about me, but sometimes I think I might be losing an ability to communicate an idea... if I ever had one..

I think probably the latter....